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Shared-risk IVF program:

             There are some programs advertising shared risk IVF programs.  For example one IVF center advertises that for $30,000 they guarantee a live pregnancy within 6 cycles of IVF or you get your money back.  If you read the fine print carefully it is not a refill on all money spent but generally the money spent for oocyte retrieval, embryo development and embryo transfer.

             The American Society for Reproductive Medicine (ASRM) and SART considers the shared risk groups as ethical.  We however do not think so.  Our belief is that it falsely makes the consumer have possible false confidence in that center and the consumer believes this must be a great IVF center if they are willing to completely return at least the retrieval, embryo development, and transfer fee.

             First people must realize that the IVF center does not guarantee that they will accept everyone into the program.  In fact they only accept those women who have a good chance of quick success, i.e., young, adequate egg reserve, so previous failure to conceive with IVF, etc.  It is a good advertisement for the IVF clinic because even if they reject most couples making the initial consult, hopefully they can convince them to still use their IVF center.

             But for those accepted into the program is it a good deal?  We at Cooper do not think so and that it is not ethical because the consumer does not realize that the majority will spend much more money than they would have if they just had IVF performed without the shared risk program.

             For example full IVF-ET cycle at Cooper cost ~6,000 for oocyte retrieval, embryo development and transfer.  “Good candidates” should have about a 50% success rate with fresh or frozen embryo transfer.

            So if we accepted $30,000 versus our $6,000 for the first hundred patients:

 1)         50 would be expected to be pregnant first cycle

            Normal expense $6000, shared cost $30,000

            Five times more money!!

 2)         One should expect at least 2 frozen embryo transfers for the first retrieval.

             Of the fifty remaining patients who did not conceive on the first cycle 25 should be          pregnant on the first frozen embryo transfer.

             Normal expense $6,000 for first retrieval plus $3,000 for frozen ET = $9,000

             But these 25 with shared risk pays $30,000.

 3)         Of the remaining 25 patients 12 should conceive with the next frozen ET with a cost of    $6,000, $3,000, and $3,000 with a total of $12,000 vs. $30,000 for shared risk.

 4)         Thirteen patients would be expected to now undergo a second oocyte retrieval.

            Six of these 13 should conceive.

             Total cost $6,000, $3,000, $3,000, and $6,000 with a total of $18,000.  The shared risk     payment - $30,000.

 5)         3 of the 7 remaining would be expected to conceive with the next frozen ET.

            Total cost for these 3 - $6,000, $3,000, $3,000, $6,000 and $3,000 - $21,000

            Cost for shared risk $30,000

 6)         2 of the remaining 4 get pregnant with the last frozen ET (total 6 cycles) add another        $3,000

            Total cost $24,000 vs. $30,000 for shared risk 

7)         Only 2 patients would benefit from the shared risk – they would have paid us $24,000      with no baby but they get there money back.

             Would shared risk be a good deal for Cooper?  You bet!  For these hundred patients Cooper would have received $2,940,000 with shared risk (98X30,000) but would have only received a total of:

 50x$6,000                                                       $300,000

25x$9,000                                                       $224,000

12x$12,000                                                     $144,000

6x$18,000                                                       $108,000

3x$21,000                                                       $63,000

2x$24,000                                                       $48,000

2x$24,000                                                       $48,000

                                                            _______________________

                                                                        $931,000

             Thus at Cooper we would make three times the profit by offering shared risk but it is not fair to the patients.

             Of course you could argue that this difference is saving for the patient is at least partially related to our low initial cost.

             What if the center charged $12,000 for a fresh transfer and $4,000 for frozen.

             Again first 50 patients conceiving first cycle payed:

             $12,000 each vs. $30,000

             Second 25 women:

            $16,000 vs. $30,000

             Next 12 patients:

            $30,000 vs. $30,000

             Next 6 women:

            $32,000 vs. $30,000

             Next 3 women:

            $35,000 vs. $30,000

             Next 2 women:

            $39,000 vs. $30,000

             Next 2 women:

            $43,000 vs. zero

             Even with their shared risk program the total money that would have become paid by these women would have been:

 12,000x50=$600,000

16x25-$400,000

12x30=$360,000

6x32=$192,000

3x35=$115,000

2x39=$78,000

____=$86,000

______________

            $1,831,000

             So if the facility offering shred risk had just charged the patients for each cycle they would have received $1,831,000 with shared risk even giving back $60,000 ($30,000 each for the 2 not conceiving).  They would receive:

 100x$30,000 = $3,000,000

minus $60,000

Total $2,940,000

             So the facility by accepting the risk makes $1,000,000 more from 100 patients and gains extra customers who just do not qualify for the program but stays with them.

             But the consumer pays $1,000 more.

             So that by entering the shared risk program they pay the facility an average of $10,000 more than if the patient just had regular services at that facility.

             And compared to our own facility if we offered the shared risk program each patient would pay $20,000 more than they had to.

             This is why we do not think it is ethical and do not encourage or offer this program.  Nevertheless since these details have been disclosed if someone wants us to do the same shared risk program we will give them the same deal for $20,000

 

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